Jake Bauer makes good points. I did the same "army play" when I was a kid. There is also the argument that the kid or anyone might be deaf or speak a foreign language. But, the real tragedy of this is that the kid died to what appears to be poorly planned rules of engagement. And for those who say you can't walk down the street with a gun... wrong. I target shoot and hunt from time to time. And, from time to time my weapons need to be worked on. Some times I carry the weapon, with the muzzle pointing in a safe direction. (the muzzle for the few of you who don't seem to know anything about weapons is where the bullet comes out at high speed). Carrying my rifle two blocks down the street because I couldn't get a parking place in front of the gunsmiths shop is perfectly legal as long as its unloaded and/or cased and locked. And, like Jake I was in the military and trained over and over again... do not fire unless fired upon. Having someone point the muzzle of a gun at you is pants wetting scary but... if you're in the military or the police... it comes with the job. Shot first puts you in as much jeopardy as the person carrying the weapon. OH... and the gunsmith doesn't want his shop cluttered up with my gun cases so when I take them in the neighbors can see the gun... and tell its pointed in a safe direction. These cops overreacted and reacted far to quickly.
Actually a real AK47 is illegal in California where this occurred, the officers were correct to stop and determine if there was an issue to be addressed. I'm sure California will now ban look-a-likes also, and honestly, if they are going to ban the real thing, then to keep this from occurring, they should.
This was NOT a "toy" gun. Obviously, since toy guns all have bright orange on them. This was made to be a replica - in other words, it was made to look exactly like the real thing (it probably even has a detachable magazine). There's no way to tell it's not the real thing unless you can actually inspect the mechanisms within it, which obviously the cops couldn't do without touching it.
The boy's parents are to blame. They didn't teach their 13 year-old not to go around holding replica assault rifles while walking down the street. It was an idiot move. And before anyone says 'but he was only 13!', there's a 14 year old being charged as an adult for the murder of his math teacher, and I doubt that most of you think he's just an adorable little child who didn't know any better. His father says the last time he saw his son was Tuesday morning (notice, it's Wednesday), and who knows where his mother was. Why the heck was this kid allowed to carry around a replica AK 47? Where were the adults in his life who should be watching over their 13 year old?
It's not the police's fault - it's stupid to say that police (or military) should have to wait until being fired on - if anyone did that, they would greatly increase their chances of being killed. It's not a fist fight - a bullet hits you, and you're likely to die. And sorry, Jake Bauer, but since when did the military ever wait to be fired on first? If that was policy, then exactly how was there a civil war? Each side would've just looked at one another because each would've been waiting for the other to fire first. More recently, were drones fired on first? Get off it.
It's still leagal in the US to carry a gun (for now), unless they had reason to believe he was causing trouble, they should of left him alone.
The next time a cop gets shot in the face for 'no reason' remember this and all the other incidents where these jerks abuse their authority.
It's not illegal to have a rifle. It IS illegal to murder someone. Execute these buttholes.
The article doesn't make it entirely clear just WHERE the youngster was when ordered to drop the 'weapon'. Certainly kids play with toy guns, that's what they are made for. But where was this youngster at the time and what was he doing? People are, understandably, alarmed and frightened when they see anyone carrying something that looks even remotely like a weapon. In a world where middle school kids kill people that's not unreasonable. Perhaps, in today's world, letting kids HAVE such toys is no longer reasonable.
I think that the officers/police need to adopt the policy from the military , Do not fire unless fired upon, this will designate who is an enemy 100%. I can tell from the picture that this a toy gun. If you ever held an AK47 you know this is a bulky heavy weapon and not easily carried. The officer missed diagnosed the situation because he was not trained properly.
I feel for the parents for their lose, I played with toy guns all the time never did I have an issue with cops or any law enforcement over it.
This officer now has to live with knowing he gunned downed a child because he couldn't tell a toy from the real thing.
I like self-checkout and the newly redesigned Novato library entrance, with the new books right at the front. They've even removed the anti-theft sensors, so the whole process is very friendly -- like they trust you and they aren't too worried about people stealing information :-)
Sure, the 21st century takes some getting used to. But Kate should get a dog if she wants a friend. Librarians are too valuable to waste checking out books. They are available and happy to help, based on my recent visit.
Let's get real: there is not an infinite amount of money available for libraries, so automation is a good thing. And the Novato library is a beautiful place right next to a park and a bakery, so be happy, eh?
"Hey guys, let's do the Jesus thing and let people go hungry and kick old people out of their homes!"
Yes. Yes yes yes yes to the yes.
Will there be a medical Harvest festival this year? Sebastopol's Morris Street Community Center is not booked...Peace In Medicine of Sebastopol has no date...
I moved to Sonoma County two years ago, partly due to the fact that it's the home of Bear Republic, Russian River, and especially Lagunitas. Now I'll have to seek out some HenHouse!
Meaghan: Let us truly hope that they are not stooping so low as to try to dig up dirt in a misguided effort to blame it on the victim. In any event, I ask all Sonoma County citizens to join me in praying for this victim's well-being and holding her in your thoughts. We can only imagine the trauma, mental anguish and fear that this person must be experiencing. She is the real victim in this entire matter, NOT Efren, and we must never lose sight of that fact.
Nice commentary, Lisa. I feel all Citizens should feel safe in their homes, regardless of gender.
To be fair, this man does NOT seem like a hoaxer by any stretch. The video would have been extremely dangerous to hoax assuming he might have mis-stepped in the undergrowth and fallen when the tree fell next to him. It also easily could have killed his small dog. A little research of this video & the accompanying stills would lend great credence to the genuineness of this footage. Pre-cutting a tree that size is also very unlikely, as the possibility of injury or death is considerable on many counts. Much as I don't give a flying shite for Biscardi & his antics, dismissing this account with decent video evidence would be a mistake. There are creatures that are not human in this video and just before the tree falls, you can see 2 quick movement on either side of the trunk, when enlarged & blown up, do NOT appear to be a person in the act of a hoax.
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We ALL support Efren getting the help and support he needs. This is one of the reasons that those of us in the Labor Movement want all workers to have health care (currently not all Sonoma county workers do) However the question of whether Efren is fit to serve as an elected leader is another thing all together. And a lot of women are tired of being subjected to this kind of assaultive and frightening behavior by men and then told to 'let it go and give him another chance' Trying to get into a woman's bedroom in your underwear at three am is not a harmless prank or a 'mistake we all make' And let me remind you that Efren is not saying he has a mental illness. He is saying he has an alcohol addiction. Many people in jail for criminal attacks, rapes, sexual assaults burglaries etc. were drunk or high at the time they committed their crime. Alcoholism and drug addiction is not a "Get Out of Jail Free Card" Especially for the poor and working class. If you have rich and powerful friends who own the newspaper it seems to work pretty well, though.
I was also frustrated by the "free pass" but if mental illness is involved, I totally support Efren getting the help and support he needs.
Lisa is correct; co-dependency is indeed dangerous. But in my opinion, enabling is a whole lot worse, and Efren's two arrests in the past 10 months prove it. Perhaps if his "handlers" had gotten him some help after his display of ghetto-like conduct in San Diego last September, he would not find himself in the precarious situation with which he is now confronted. Well said, Latino Dems; the bar is indeed higher -- much higher -- for elected officials. No double standards, please.
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