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Re: “Pipelines and Battle Lines

I am one of those tribal members (Coos) that opposes this project. The pipeline would go through forests and under the Umpqua, Rogue, Coquille and Coos rivers. It would ultimately be bad for fish and wildlife and impact archaeological sites.

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Posted by P. Phillips on 06/15/2017 at 5:16 PM

Re: “Out, But Not Down

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Re: “The Outback in Our Backyard

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Posted by anderson smith on 06/05/2017 at 4:42 PM

Re: “Everything but the Anarchists

Responding to the article, the reporter, and the posts above.
Firstly, I am a former bay area police officer (San Francisco suburb).
Secondly, I am a member of OathKeepers.

To directly address Leslie2's post above, I voted for Obama, and then I voted for Trump. You just found your "non-fringe". I identify myself as a constitutionalist now, although I was raised heavily liberal/democrat and identified as such in my youth all the way through college (my dad went to Berkeley and was part of the crowd during the riots and National Guard incident, my cousins are named Sunshine and Rainbow, I was almost named Free, and I spent my youth travelling around in a Volkswagon Bus, occasionally painted like hippies, and my first degree was behavioral science). As a police officer, I was republican, as was expected of my cadre. So there is some grounding information.

I debated joining Oathkeepers for many years. Partly because of the stigma imposed upon the organization by the mainstream media and leftist journalists. Oathkeepers are NOT an "alt-right" organization. Contrary to implications above and elsewhere. And, just for the record, Oathkeepers members were critical of the republican establishment under Bush as well as Obama, and Trump. Oathkeepers is a distinctly non-partisan/political organization. I found this out when, once a member, I began reading internal forums and discovered that when occasionally someone posted about Oathkeepers should attend so-and-so's rally or whatever, they were shot down because the organization refused to be associated with a particular political leaning and does not wish to be affiliated with either political wing. I am NOT saying its a neutral organization. But, they try very hard to prevent the organization itself from the appearance of association with any political party. When you see turnouts, or when there is an organizational call to action or mobilization, the purpose is to defend the constitutional rights of those who are being threatened. NOT to protect the political party involved. There is a very distinct difference there that is often overlooked. I believe this difference is intentionally overlooked to help demonize the organization. Showing up to protect peoples right to speak is far different from showing up to support their perspective or political group. It doesn't mean we agree with them. It means we believe in their right to say it and will help protect their ability to do so whether we agree with it or not. I monitor all of the internal state boards, and this is a universal truth from inside the organization. The people, like me, who were sworn officers, overwhelming joined Oathkeepers because we believe strongly in the constitution and the rights outlined therein. If we wanted to join a more "alt-right" group, or something that inserts itself a little more boisterously into politics, we'd join the three-pers (III-pers or 3%-ers) or one of the numerous militias. Many Oathkeepers, in fact, are members of both. They join Oathkeepers because they believe in their oath to protect and defend the constitution, and support the organization and its attempt to be moderately apolitical to protect the rights of all, and then they also join alt-right organizations or militias that they believe in for their ability to express their political views more openly and with open support of others (because Oathkeepers tends to shut down these types of expressions).

Myself, I joined no other groups. I am not a part of a militia. I am not a part of any alt-right organization. I hold no other membership, other than the union I am a mandated member of (I moved on from police work and into medicine, where I am now an emergency department nurse). Because my belief and my efforts are entirely directed toward supporting the constitution, I joined this organization, which is the only organization I found which also does this, and only does this. I am not even a member of the NRA or other 2A groups, because there are politics mixed up in those organizations that I don't necessarily agree with. Oathkeepers is just about the constitution, no add on junk. On a personal note, I have been a critic of every president since I turned 18, from Clinton to Bush to Obama to Trump. I have been critical of every presidential move that was antithetical to constitution, regardless of their political party. I have been very critical of Trump over some of his moves as well. This is not about party politics or right wing alignment.

So, it is wrong to portray the entire organization in a political slant, and it is wrong to portray its members likewise. I am not a hold out or a loner in the organization. In fact, I'd say, I am probably more of the average in my political leanings and beliefs. It is interesting seeing reactions from people finding out I am an Oathkeeper, and in realizing how the organization to which I belong is considered by many to be anti-government, or sovereign-citizen (as alleged by the articles' author above) which is absolutely NOT true. We are former and current law enforcement and military, we love our country, our government. We have all been trained in the risks/dangers sovereign citizens may pose. We are NOT associated with them, and it is disingenuous to state or even imply otherwise. We are not a racist organization either. But we definitely are shy around media, simply because of how wrongly we are represented in the media, even by people who state they will not "throw us under the bus". Its hard to trust journalists when they keep perpetuating blatant lies about you. I am not saying what was done was correct (trying to take the journalists notes/recorder, as alleged above), as I do not believe in secrecy on behalf of organizations or government. Everything an organization does should be public light, and that is partly why the groups meetings are public and open to everyone. We do not hide who we are or what we believe. This reporter may have had a bad experience. If so, I am sorry. That experience is NOT representative of who we are or what we stand for. As an Oathkeeper, if I had been in that meeting, I would have stood with you in the back of the room and protected your recording device and your notepad and your right to be there. I have done so for others, and will do so continuing on in the future. I don't care if you are smearing us, I don't even care if you are directly verbally insulting me, you still have a right to be there, even if I don't like you or what you say, and I will still fight to defend your right to do so.

That is who we are, and what we stand for. THAT is Oathkeepers.

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Posted by JoshAegis on 06/04/2017 at 10:46 PM

Re: “Add It Up

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Posted by lopez Mina on 04/29/2017 at 3:32 PM

Re: “Add It Up

Ah Donald, how much do we loathe thee? Let me count the ways......
Onward!
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Santa Rosa

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Posted by finnie on 04/29/2017 at 1:28 PM

Re: “Add It Up

Dude, you've got waaaaaay too much free time. Get a life, already!

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Posted by Chris Sholes on 04/27/2017 at 6:36 PM

Re: “Clearing the Air

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Posted by Gene Koch on 04/23/2017 at 3:17 PM

Re: “Clearing the Air

Dear Author David Templeton:
I have been trying to reach you to no-avail. As much as we all love this article and how dear to our Heart this is, Mt. Shasta Patients from Mt. Shasta California, Myself and my entire staff attended. It was sad that it was published stating Shasta Lake attended, which is Southern to Us way up here up North. I sure wish you could do a correction letter to your article. Due to our attendance we now have other facilities that are utilizing this to benefit the patients.
Thank you very Much Elizabeth Tabor CEO, Mt. Shasta Patients Collective Mt. Shasta California.

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Posted by Elizabeth Woolery on 04/21/2017 at 4:55 PM

Re: “Clearing the Air

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Posted by cgtripp on 04/20/2017 at 5:20 PM

Re: “Everything but the Anarchists

Thank you for your comment, Mr. Hines; I found out more about what motivates the Oath Keepers from you, than I did from the actual article. Bridging the divide, indeed.

It would be interesting to see some investigative reporting on all the people who voted for Trump, that had previously voted for Obama. They'd be harder to track down as they're not "fringe" and don't hold meetings...I suggest starting with the most enthusiastic Bernie supporters. That's where Mr. Gogola might find his ideological vertex.

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Posted by leslie 2 on 03/18/2017 at 1:35 AM

Re: “Everything but the Anarchists

It's regrettable your experience was negative. If it's like mine have been, I suspect the source of difficulty had more to do with the participant's concerns over having their comments used to vilify the group as part of some propaganda campaign. They tend to be naive on how to effectively communicate their concerns. The Oath Keepers have been regularly attacked by the MSM since their beginning and it's made a lot of them jumpy.

An over simplification, these folks are used to working with their hands more than their minds. What they lack in sophistication, they make up for with intentions and idealistic interpretation of the Constitution. Far from fascists, they want folks to hold themselves to a personal standard, rather than have the government tell them what they can and cannot do. Folks telling them they have to do something or can't do something is about as welcome as a kick to the teeth. They would rather come to these conclusions themselves, as they typically do, on a daily basis in their work. If you think about it, what they don't appreciate, it isn't much different than them coming up and asking you to stop doing your job.

That's what makes their situation so difficult. They've been attacked in the press to the point they have grown defensive and this has them going against what they stand for. That said, when things get difficult (Ferguson), they drop the defensiveness and go to work, risking their lives to stand between the "bad guys" and the innocent. These are simple folks with an internal moral compass, whether it's "Faith in God" and/or the Constitution, who take offense at people who don't know them, who don't care to know them, telling them how they have to live and attacking them every time they don't use the acceptable Politically Correct methods of expressing themselves.

Thank you for trying to reach out and understand the Oath Keepers. Please know they are not racists, sexist or authoritarian, but rather concerned, frustrated and a bit fed-up with being held to a standard that elected members of the Federal government seems to have a difficult time meeting.

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Posted by Mr Hines on 03/16/2017 at 11:16 AM

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Re: “Herbal Remedies

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Re: “Stark Raving

My opinion about this article was to get to see new perspective what actually owner mean to own a restaurant. I like the fact that they said: "We're not here to make money," "We're here to make friends." It seems like all the owner should think about the beneficial and quality to serve for clients, but I guess they think "friends" is the first priority to connected with the restaurant. Also, Stark Family supporting with the local food to provide a customer with an organic food, and make farmer into the restaurant business.
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Posted by Mind Kawinnart on 03/10/2017 at 3:35 PM

Re: “A Singular Experience

Thanks, Anylocalsleft. The story has clarified to reflect the history of the building.

Posted by Stett Holbrook on 03/02/2017 at 10:10 AM

Re: “A Singular Experience

Having direct knowledge of the situation, I know developer Tony Greenberg was withholding payments for months prior Behler Construction's lien. Mr. Greenberg has various issues with the subcontractors that have balances due, and thus final payment cant be made to these subcontractors until these items are resolved. All of the other subcontractors and suppliers have been paid in full for their work on the project. The story doesnt mention that liens were also filed by Babcock Floors, Conklin Bros of Santa Rosa, Alan Gale (Alpha Fire), and RLA Sheet Metal. There is even Certificate of Lien from the Sonoma County Tax Collector.

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Posted by getitright on 03/01/2017 at 4:33 PM

Re: “A Singular Experience

One note of correction, the building itself was NOT the post office, it burned down mysteriously, in order for the new building to be built, which was a major point of contention with locals.

Posted by Anylocalsleft on 03/01/2017 at 1:11 PM

Re: “A Singular Experience

Way to bring this to the attention of those of us who've yet to experience Single Thread, I saw @thefoodofelan posted about this on Instagram, during his visit. Says they should get a 2 Michelin Star. Sounds yummy.

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Posted by ShaSha on 03/01/2017 at 1:02 PM

Re: “Downstream

Regarding the Feb. 22 State Water Board meeting in Sacramento to decide whether to certify the Elk River TMDL, the minutes for that item read:
"PULLED DEFERRED TO FUTURE BOARD MEETING".
I don't suppose that's good for the cause. Great in-depth article on an important local issue.

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Posted by leslie 2 on 02/25/2017 at 12:54 PM

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