Stefhan Gordon 
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Re: “Beef of Burden

What's so ironic is how little these so-called environmentalists know about ecology and ecosystems, that is what's necessary for these ecosystems to function.. Look at Yellowstone for example where elk were having an adverse impact on vegetation and water ways. The elk overgrazed and polluted water ways. When an apex predator, wolves, were re-introduced, the wolves managed the elk by controlling their populations and forcing them to bunch up in herds. Without the pressure of apex predators, elk will have the same if not worse impact upon land than cattle. Why? Because elk are much much more difficult to manage. Due these environmentalist want to also reintroduce other apex predators like wolves to control the elk here?

Posted by Stefhan Gordon on 03/31/2016 at 8:51 AM

Re: “Hog Heaven

nothing like stupid comments from people who know nothing about raising pigs..or nature for that matter....guess they'd rather have seen the breed go extinct. The reality is that you can't maintain the species without having a meat program since 1). pigs are very prolific, and 2). only the best genetics are bred. In nature, with predation, that's how hardy breeds are maintained. Without apex predtors, man assumes that role.

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Posted by Stefhan Gordon on 11/23/2014 at 1:56 PM

Re: “Eat More Beef

The premise that ecologists have followed is that animals cause soil degradation and desertification due to over grazing. Based on this premise, Savory (with the support of all the other ecologists in his country) made the tragic mistake of removing elephants from the landscape. Savory acknowledges this tragedy and that he'll take this mistake to his grave.

What happened though without the elephants is that desertification got a lot worse. What Savory learned is that the elephants and large grazers were and are essential in preventing desertification and that animals are an essential part of maintaining grassland ecosystems. 2/3 of the earth non-submerged area is grasslands.

In America, the near extermination of bison took those large ruminants out of the ecosystem. Abolitionist vegans now want to further degrade ecosystems by doing away with grass fed cattle and other livestock. But despite misinformed editorials claiming that Savory's methods don't work, the proof is in the implementation with over 40 milion acres on 5 continents utilziing holistic management methods producing results.

Here are two excellent videos showing the methods and benefits of proper management and soil sequestion. Anyone who dismisses what Savory has been accomplishing is simply blinded by his or her food religion and has not spoken with any ranchers using these methods

The Soil Solution to Climate Change - http://t.co/SJpHvU4vFg
Soil Carnon Cowboys - http://vimeo.com/80518559


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Posted by Stefhan Gordon on 10/27/2014 at 10:14 AM

Re: “Eat More Beef

Nothing sensational at all, the author cites scientific reports to debunk all the myths that are being passed off as "science." maybe you should read the books as well its footnotes before making such ill informed comments. Besides any introductory environmental course that doesn't understand the carbon cycle, ecosystems and soil health really isn't a very good one. Diets that require a lot of transportation for out of season produce don't have small carbon foot prints.

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Posted by Stefhan Gordon on 10/24/2014 at 12:26 AM

Re: “Eat More Beef

LOL how predictable regarding the vegan response to watch "Cowspiracy" and that the "real" numbers are the World Watch report numbers. Cowspiracy lost what little credibility it had citing the World Watch report. Here are two excellent critiques of that Wolrd Watch report that show how flawed that report's analysis was and why it's considered something of a joke. The second critique below is by a vegan

Climate Chicanery (clip and paste the links into your browser)
http://fromanimaltomeat.com/2009/10/30/climate-chicanery/
Vegan Stephen Walsh's critique
http://goo.gl/51uNeN

Plus here's a good review of "Cowspiracy" which points out that the movie is really one more concerned about pushing an abolitionist vegan agenda instead of a being genuinely concerned about climate change - http://exm.nr/1rrdpQy

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Posted by Stefhan Gordon on 10/22/2014 at 8:28 PM

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